I just posted a tweet asking how best to dissuade a colleague from presenting results using Excel.

The post had a fair impact – many likes and retweets – but also a lot of people saying, in tones from puzzlement to indignation, that they saw nothing wrong with Excel and this tweet just showed intellectual snobbery on my part.
A proper answer to those 31 replies deserves more than the 280 character Twitter limit, so here it is.
First, this is not an anti-Microsoft thing. When I say “Excel” I include Apple’s Numbers and LibreOffice’s Calc. I mean any spreadsheet program, of which Excel is overwhelmingly the market leader. The brand name has become the generic term, as happened with Hoover and Xerox.
Secondly, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with Excel itself. It is really useful for some purposes. It has spread so widely because it meets a real need. But for many purposes, particularly in my own field (physics) it is, for reasons discussed below, usually the wrong tool.
The problem is that people who have been introduced to it at an early stage then use it because it’s familiar, rather than expending the effort and time to learn something new. They end up digging a trench with a teaspoon, because they know about teaspoons, whereas spades and shovels are new and unfamiliar. They invest lots of time and energy in digging with their teaspoon, and the longer they dig the harder it is to persuade them to change.

The first and obvious problem is that Excel is a tool for business. Excel tutorials and examples (such as that above) are full of sales, costs, overheads, clients and budgets. That’s where it came from, and why it’s so widely used. Although it deals with numbers, and thanks to the power of mathematics numbers can be used to count anything, the tools it provides to manipulate those numbers – the algebraic formulae the graphs and charts – are those that will be useful and appropriate for business.
That bias could be overcome, but there is a second and much bigger problem. Excel integrates the data and the analysis. You start with a file containing raw numbers. Working within that file you create a chart: you specify what data to plot and how to plot it (colours, axes and so forth). The basic data is embellished with calculations, plots, and text to make (given time and skill) a meaningful and informative graphic.
In the alternative approach (the spade or shovel of the earlier analogy) is to write a program (using R or Python or Matlab or Gnuplot or ROOT or one of the many other excellent languages) which takes the data file and makes the plots from it. The analysis is separated from the data.
Let’s see how this works and why the difference matters. As a neutral example, we’ll take the iris data used by Fisher and countless generations of statistics students. It’s readily available. Let’s suppose you want to plot the Sepal length against the Petal length for all the data. It’s very easy, using a spreadsheet or using a program
Using Apple Numbers (other spreadsheets will be similar) you download the iris data file, open it, and click on
- Chart
- Scatter-plot icon.
- “Add Data”
- Sepal Length column
- Petal Length column
and get

In R (other languages will be similar) you read the data (if necessary) and then draw the desired plot
iris=read.csv("filename") plot(iris$Sepal.Length, iris$Petal.length)
and get

Having looked at your plot, you decide to make it presentable by giving the axes sensible names, by plotting the data as solid red squares, by specifying the limits for x as 4 – 8 and for y as 0 – 7, and removing the ‘Petal length’ title.
Going back to the spreadsheet you click on:
- The green tick by the ‘Legend’ box, to remove it
- “Axis”
- Axis-scale Min, and insert ‘4’ (the other limits are OK)
- Tick ‘Axis title’
- Where ‘Value Axis’ appears on the plot, over-write with “Sepal Length (cm)”
- ‘Value Y’
- Tick ‘Axis title’
- Where ‘Value Axis’ appears, over-write with “Petal Length(cm)”
- “Series”
- Under ‘Data Symbols’ select the square
- Click on the chart, then on one of the symbols
- “Style”
- ‘Fill Color’ – select a nice red
- ‘Stroke Color’ – select the same red

In R you type the same function with some extra arguments
plot(iris$Sepal.Length,iris$Petal.Length,xlab="Sepal length (cm)", ylab="Petal length (cm)", xlim=c(4,8), ylim=c(0,7), col='red', pch=15)

So we’ve arrived at pretty much the same place by the two different routes – if you want to tweak the size of the symbols or the axis tick marks and grid lines, this can be done by more clicking (for the spreadsheet) or specifying more function arguments (for R). And for both methods the path has been pretty easy and straightforward, even for a beginner. Some features are not immediately intuitive (like the need to over-write the axis title on the plot, or that a solid square is plotting character 15), but help pages soon point the newbie to the answer.
The plots may be the same, but the means to get there are very different. The R formatting is all contained in the line
plot(iris$Sepal.Length,iris$Petal.Length,xlab="Sepal length (cm)", ylab="Petal length (cm)", xlim=c(4,8), ylim=c(0,7), col='red', pch=15)
whereas the spreadsheet uses over a dozen point/click/fill operations. Which are nice in themselves but make it harder to describe what you’ve done – that left hand column up above is much longer than the one on the right. And that was a specially prepared simple example. If you spend many minutes of artistic creativity improving your plot – changing scales, adding explanatory features, choosing a great colour scheme and nice fonts – you are highly unlikely to remember all the changes you made, to be able to describe them to someone else, or to repeat them yourself for a similar plot tomorrow. And the spreadsheet does not provide such a record, not in the same way the code does.
Now suppose you want to process the data and extract some numbers. As an example, imagine you want to find the mean of the petal width divided by the sepal width. (Don’t ask me why – I’m not a botanist).
- Click on rightmost column header (“F”) and Add Column After.
- Click in cell G2, type “=”, then click cell C2, type “/”, then cell E2, to get something like this

(notice how your “/” has been translated into the division-sign that you probably haven’t seen since primary school. But I’m letting my prejudice show…)
- Click the green tick, then copy the cell to the clipboard by Edit-Copy or Ctrl-C or Command-C
- Click on cell G3, then drag the mouse as far down the page as you can, then fill those cells by Edit-Paste or Ctrl-V or Command-V
- Scroll down the page, and repeat until all 150 rows are filled
- Add another column (this will be H)
- Somewhere – say H19 – insert “=” then “average(“,click column G , and then “)”. Click the green arrow
- Then, because it is never good just to show numbers, in H18 type “Mean width ratio”. You will need to widen the column to get it to fit

Add two lines to your code:
> ratio=iris$Petal.Width/iris$Sepal.Width > print(paste("Mean width ratio",mean(ratio))) [1] "Mean width ratio 0.411738307332676"
It’s now pretty clear that even for this simple calculation the program is a LOT simpler than the spreadsheet. It smoothly handles the creation of new variables, and mathematical operations. Again the program is a complete record of what you’ve done, that you can look at and (if necessary) discuss with others, whereas the contents of cell 19 are only revealed if you click on it.
As an awful warning of what can go wrong – you may have spotted that the program uses “mean” whereas the spreadsheet uses “average”. That’s a bit off (Statistics 101 tells us that the mode, the mean and the median are three different ‘averages’) but excusable. What is tricky is that if you type “mean(” into the cell, this gets autocorrected to “median(“. What then shows when you look at the spreadsheet is a number which is not obviously wrong. So if you’re careless/hurried and looking at your keyboard rather than the screen, you’re likely to introduce an error which is very hard to spot.
This difference in the way of thinking is brought out if/when you have more than one possible input dataset. For the program, you just change the name of the data file and re-run it. For the spreadsheet, you have to open up the new file and repeat all the click-operations that you used for the first one. Hopefully you can remember what they are – and if not, you can’t straightforwardly re-create them by examining the original spreadsheet.
So Excel can be used to draw nice plots and extract numbers from a dataset, particularly where finance is involved, but it is not appropriate
- If you want to show someone else how you’ve made those plots
- If you are not infallible and need to check your actions
- If you want to be able to consider the steps of a multi-stage analysis
- If you are going to run the same, or similar, analyses on other datasets
and as most physics data processing problems tick all of these boxes, you shouldn’t be using Excel for one.
Excel, Word (instead of LateX) are useful for exploratory, quick analysis but should never be used for serious research in my opinion. Excel helps students get interested so can be used as a bait to attract those scared of numbers …
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Scripting of all the clicks, cell formulas and so on in Excel is inefficient if done by hand. But can we not use VBA to script these actions and then tweak the VBA code as needed? Then the comparison will be between the ease of scripting in R vs. VBA
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I absolutely used to be of this view, but I changed my mind. All of the ‘take downs’ of Excel I see fall into the same trap of comparing the most naive and simplistic use of Excel with an expert’s use of R, Python or whatever software the author prefers. Sadly this blog is no different.
No one except an absolute novice would cut, paste and scroll down 150 columns to propagate a formula as you describe here. In Excel there are keyboard shortcuts and mouse shortcuts to achieve this very rapidly.
Likewise, there are such things as templates for charts and spreadsheets. No, you do not need to format the graph from scratch every time with hundreds of mouse clicks as you are suggesting, and yes, using a template you can have the exact same formatting every time, and yes you can share the template so others can reproduce exactly the chart you have made.
If you knew about these things, why try and present a strawman argument? If you didn’t perhaps consider there might be more to this accounting software than you originally thought.
Of course for many things Excel simply isn’t the best choice. Very large datasets, certain kinds of plots, certain kinds of analysis. But for a large amount of work in a wide range of fields in physical sciences it is completely up to the job if you learn to use it well, just like any other analysis/graphing software.
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Several simple and intuitive Excel steps can be replaced by a smaller number of arcane and complicated ones, but that doesn’t affect the argument.
Templates are only used if you get them in at the start. They provide a blank workbook set up in a standard way according to your needs, fine. But if – which is the usual case – you get given a data file and want to analyse it, it’s too late.
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‘Arcane’ and ‘complicated’ don’t seem to be well defined in this context so I’m not sure how to address your point. If you think keyboard shortcuts are arcane then I probably can’t convince you otherwise. Many people might think R syntax is arcane, I wonder how you would argue against an assertion like that. My point is, those with even a small amount of experience in Excel would never proceed as you describe in your article, there are far better ways. So the comparison is flawed.
Which brings us to templates. I wasn’t really talking about workbook templates. Maybe you haven’t used graph templates in Excel. These save all the formatting decisions to be reused every time. So you don’t need to set the color, line width, title font, number style, graph size every time, they are saved in the template. And they can be shared with others. So they eliminate many of the problems you talk about.
Like I say, expert use of R compared with novice use of Excel really isn’t a fair test.
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